[Dynamic Branch Explorer Layout]

Wow! Quite detailed. Could you draw (by hand if needed) how do you imagine the resulting Branch Explorer? I'm super interested @gweronimo

[Validation system]

Can you use branches? Will they help? Or do you really need something else?

 

The other option (I don't love it, though) would be to shelve changes instead of checkin, then validate, and only apply if approved.

 

Even another option:

* Work on a single branch (dev).

* Cherry pick validated changes to main.

[Validation system]

But what you propose is basically reinventing branches without branches 🙂

Make every person work on a task branch (super short ones), then someone validates, and the merge happens only if the task is validated.

[Dynamic Branch Explorer Layout]

No, I mean this @S_Luis

The relayout config, where you can manually move branches, if this can be shared with all users.

 

[Dynamic Branch Explorer Layout]

@SWSBB how would you like to enter weights in branch attributes? Would that make sense?

We could also use some file to give weights, but then people would complaint about GUI support.

If we end up implementing custom weights, we could simply use a brex_weight special attribute that you can use for this.

@mig any other idea you'd like better?

I'm not sure it would be a widespread feature, anyway, because users need to configure their stuff.

@jwvanderbeck this would also fix your "main" issue, I believe. But, in your case, you can easily move develop up with the relayout, right? @S_Luis can we put the relayout in global config already? Or is that yet in the wish list?

[SSL wildcard certificate support]

Just as a reminder to anyone visiting this: this is no longer an issue. If it was ever a problem (we are not even sure), it is no longer an issue.

We tested wildcard certificates on our servers again today, and weren't able to repro any issues. No questions are asked to the user and everything seems to work fine.

[Why does Plastic lose my settings every time I update!?]

Is there anything special in your setup? Are you Windows, macOS, Linux??

[Why does Plastic lose my settings every time I update!?]

Definitely not normal. I mean, we upgrade ALL the time and settings are not lost.

 

Settings are stored under appdata/local/plastic4, and this folder is not touched by the upgrade.

 

That being said, we can look into your case specifically, because this is definitely not what everyone else is experiencing.

[Validation system]

Hi @Fauns

 

What you describe sounds similar to what we explain here in detail: https://www.plasticscm.com/book/#_a_perfect_workflow

Take a look, let me know if it rings a bell, and let's follow the conversation from there 🙂

 

pablo

 

[How to tell if a workspace is out of date?]

Pending Changes is your friend, and cm status in command line.

[Preventing locking across branches / forking]

Hi @wouter,

There are two things here: regarding the locks that get wrongly applied between repos, we are currently checking this. I think you also requested this in Zendesk. We are on it.

 

Regarding your suggestion about keeping locks per branch: yes, it makes a lot of sense. I mean, it is not our final goal, we'd like to have locks applied between branches and released only when the file reaches a given branch in a given repo, but so far being able to keep locks per branch makes a lot of sense. Not sure, though, if we'll be able to develop it asap.

 

 

[Create branch without Checkin]

Did you find "checkin to different branch"?

 

Or, move cset to a different branch:

 

[Is there a quick commandline way to find the latest changeset that has affected a subfolder?]

Let me know if we need to fix anything

[Is there a quick commandline way to find the latest changeset that has affected a subfolder?]

But you don't need a workspace for cm ls. You can pass it "server side" paths. Use the --tree option. That's the key.

[Is there a quick commandline way to find the latest changeset that has affected a subfolder?]

Hi Mikael,

I'm not sure if this will totally help, but why don't you try the cm ls --tree command? It lets you browse a given tree, even a given path or file on a tree, and you can find what was loaded on a given changeset.

Run cm ls --help, here goes one of the examples:

 

cm ls /code --tree=ae1390ed-7ce9-4ec3-a155-e5a61de0dc77@myrep@denver:7070

 

Let me know if it helps (I activated notification of replies this time, so it won't take that long to reply, sorry for that)

 

pablo

[Is there a quick commandline way to find the latest changeset that has affected a subfolder?]

You can do a cm find revision and then filter by path with the item field, if I’m not mistaken.

 

you can also check the history of the directory

 

since the directory changes each time its children change, the result is quite easy to obtain 

[Top level branch from top level branch]

Yes, I wanted to say changeset 🙂

[Top level branch from top level branch]

But main always have an initial changeset with the root dir.

also, if you create a branch from another one, they share the same location (like Git) but it is not dynamic or anything. So, not sure why you need the intermediate changeset 😉

[Top level branch from top level branch]

Thanks for the details, Aaron. It is a real pleasure and privilege to learn more about version control from experienced users.

Regarding this:

Quote

It makes sense to have branches rely on change sets. An unfortunate, but reasonable requirement.

What would be your desired behavior?

We changed how branches worked in Plastic eons ago, and I'm always eager to know about other options.

We used to have some sort of branch inheritance where you could make a change to a parent branch and then changes were dynamically propagated to children if they didn't collide, and I used to love it, but it was extremely confusing for mostly everyone.

So, please, share what your ideal behavior would be.

pablo

[Top level branch from top level branch]

Branches start from a changeset. That’s why an empty branch behaves this way.

 

you can play with permissions to deny people creating child branches, or you can create triggers to control the branch hierarchy

 

That being said: do you have a Perforce background?

 

And, why do you need this complex branch hierarchy? Have you read about our recommended branching pattern? https://www.plasticscm.com/book/#_a_perfect_workflow

[Top level branch from top level branch]

Hi Aaron,

A top level branch is just a namespace convention.

You can create "develop" starting from "main", and it will be called "develop" if it is a top-level branch while it would be "main/develop" if it was an ordinary branch. Other than that, their behavior is EXACTLY the same.

Please share more about what you would like to achieve so we can find a better solution.

From here it sounds a little bit like "git flow" 😉 and it is probably too many structure branches to me, but that's just an opinion 😉

 

pablo

[User/group always at head or label]

Hi Fleer,

Well, this is a pretty interesting topic. In fact, it is worth a blogpost and a chapter in the Plastic book. I just feel dumb I didn't write it.

There are different possible options:

a) An after-update trigger that launches the update under projects behind the scenes for them each time they update something.

b) Force them to work with Plastic and work on the main branch => then they must update. But probably not a good choice.

There are other options but they are more in the structure side of things, not really in "forcing users to update".

 

Let me know if a) makes sense, and I'll share this with the team.

 

pablo

[Thank you for gmaster]

Hi Milan!

 

Thank you for your kind words 🙂

[Manually mark a delete/add pair as a move?]

Well, we *should* be good detecting moves, but we are better with code because then we can calculate similarity.

 

We have a way to use the NTFS underlying logs to detect moves more precisely, but we never made it public.

[Manually mark a delete/add pair as a move?]

That's what you can customize:

 

How do you move the pngs? Using some tool? Or directly in Explorer? If the latter, you can always use the Plastic Workspace Explorer for the moves